This link - http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/15/wall-street-insider-%e2%80%9cleo-gerard%e2%80%9d/ sparked the following conversation between 2 Yanks, Marlowe, Oleneo and a Brit, UKDude.
It is an exact mirror of affairs over here.
Would you believe the results of a report commissioned by The Guardian issued yesterday says that the recent London riots were an expression of dissatisfaction over the police.
It’s being spun variously as, legitimate civil unrest = riot, free takeaway = theft, arrests and subsequent gaol [a correctional institution used to detain persons who are in the lawful custody of the government] = police brutality and right wing oppression.
You couldn’t make it up.
As WHI said this whole OWS/London riots deal is a trial balloon or test run for next summer. Pat Caddell who is a
long time Democrat pollster of the moderate Dem. school said it best. “He has never seen a POTUS who was more fixated to the detriment of all else to get re-elected.”
Believe me Caddell goes way back to George McGovern and he has seen and knows a lot. Actually, he is about the only Dem. I give any credence too.
I believe that election 2012 will be the most brutal, barbaric awful plebiscite this country has seen in 150 years. Corruption will be rampant, vote buying and ballot box stuffing will be taken too a new level.
Here’s a short list of the states where history proves American POTUS elections are determined and therefore are ripe for horrendous abuse; PA, OH, FL, WI and MO.
Yes, 2012 will be horrific. Presume that is a major factor for the sharp rise in gun sales in the U.S.
UKDude, don’t believe y’all in the UK have that freedom. We have to fight for it each day, since our political leaders scheme and even kill people so they can make the case for limiting our 2nd amendment.
I’ll tell you the kind of freedom we are getting used to:
Freedom to have an illegal immigrant convicted of serious crimes remain indefinitely in the UK because he is entitled to a family life and would miss his cat.
Freedom to witness a disabled woman who ran her wheelchair over the foot of a lout who had just spat on her charged with assault.
Freedom to have a thug who was sentenced to community service, taken back to court for refusing to work clearing up leaves because he saw no point in it, sent away with a curfew order instead.
And so it goes on!
BTW I picked up a piece recently attributed to a US Judge Kennedy who mused that the Constitution is a dynamic document which should reflect the ‘liberationist spirit of our times’ in concert with ever changing public mores.
He does not explain however, why the right to liberty includes a right to abortion and gay sodomy but not a right to ‘incest, prostitution, embezzlement or indeed anything else an individual might regard as central to his dignity and autonomy’.
The prediction that follows sees the vision of individual liberty eroding institutions such as marriage and family and sooner rather than later ‘lead to conflict disorder and ultimately the dissolution of society itself’.
So Oleneo, it sure looks as if gun sales are set to soar year on year.
UKDude I think you summarized the argument beautifully when you said, “The prediction that follows sees the vision of individual liberty eroding institutions such as marriage and family and sooner rather than later ‘lead to conflict disorder and ultimately the dissolution of society itself’”.
The lefts “vision of individual liberty” as you so well stated, has nothing to do with individuals or liberty. Rather it is the promotion of the Balkanization of competing “single/special” interest groups which can then be easily controlled by the granting or withholding of special rights and privledges.
This, if not outright anarchy, is the goal of the radical socialist-statist. Pit this group against this, that or the other one for special favors and ultimately you have complete control over society.
The very thought or idea of “individual liberty” is as foreign to the statist-socialist as computers would have been to Christopher Marlowe.
The battle for western democracy will be determined, in the US anyways, over the next 12 months, the most crucial in the history of America. If by some fluke or more likely outright theft, Mao’Bama is re-elected America will be dead as a going concern.
A random thought on Mao’Bama’s 2008 election:
Mao’Bama was elected by his ability to motivate and mobilize a certain segment of society by his lofty “hope and change” rhetoric which produced a rather narrow 2.6% margin.
We all know who the “certain segment” of society is; we normally refer to them as idiots, dolts and the “boobarazzi”
The beauty of this class of people is they have to be highly motivated/persuaded to get involved and need to be bribed to complete the deal.
Here’s the GOOD part; Barry has failed at bribing or inspiring most of them and when that happens they rebel by NOT VOTING.
Your final point, unfortunately, is predictive of what BHO and the Dems will see as the only methods they have left to use in order to save ‘The One’. Very, very ugly times ahead.